There is no "both-sideism"...lol. There is just telling the whole truth. Nothing I stated about these men are lies. They are all verifiable facts that have been documented by historians. The fact that you have coined a phrase instead of just acknowledging that these men had flaws continues to prove my point about America's obsession with exceptionalism. There is nothing misleading about the TRUTH. What is misleading is when the whole truth is not told and people are misled into believing that this country was founded by benevolent men without flaws. They can be great and terrible at the same time, and they have proven to be just that.